Dthestryker13 2010-04-09 09:50:18

If they don't fuck it up this could actually be a good thing. But knowing human beings, they will probably fuck it up.

greatme 2010-04-09 10:24:51

I doubt they know how to truly achieve half of their goals. What we need to move on in life is a new ideology, new moral standards, new ways to think (Some people...don't think at all, it'd seem). What gives that technology is our most potent weapon in dominating the planet? It evolves, constantly, while WE as a species stopped, even our brains are stuck in old morales, inspired by religion and other, obsolete things. The people need not new representants, they need to represent themselves. And communism met a massive failure as a system: Not good. We need a NEW system, a FLUID system that can ADAPT. So, meh for the values, politicians tend to embellish the truth anyway.

ImperialNarwhal 2010-04-09 10:27:06

The only way communism can ever work is if humans give up ambition. If they say your going to be a farmer, but you have dreams of becomming an astronaught, too bad.

Communism is a nice idea, the only problem is that it doesn't work with humans.

Another point of interest is that in Russia, the majority of the Communist party are kids who havn't yet left their parents house, or just started in the work place, so of course communism SOUNDS good while they are WORKING IN a capitalistic society, so they can talk the talk without having to walk the walk.

They can think of how wonderful being equal will be without having to yet give up freedoms and rights that the little bastards take forgranted.

tl:dr ~ Communism doesn't work, the IDEA of communism is great, but it never has and never will work unless you remove sections of everyones brain and be like Nazi Germany. Nice try commies, but it's gg for you

SUPER-JOHN-DOE 2010-04-09 10:30:13

It's too late for comunism to be reborn.Especialy after the fall of U.S.S.R.

Five-Iron 2010-04-09 10:32:11

Nothings ever been wrong with communism. I would say Fascism is a bigger worry about. Hitler kinda gave everyone a bad rep because he "Borrowed" so many of Musolini's ideas (The Black coats = the brown coats, etc). I've read of Marxism working in North America, which sounds crazy to me, but if that is possible, why not...

ImperialNarwhal 2010-04-09 10:35:39

Give some sauce Five-iron, or shut your communist mouth. We have never BEEN communism, so how can communism work OUTSIDE of TINY communities? Huh? Bitch they can't, shut your whore mouth

BazookaJack 2010-04-09 10:38:06

fuck yeah communism

Madman12 2010-04-09 10:50:31

in soviet russia car drives u^^

Jarus 2010-04-09 11:18:57

Hell yeah, I voted for 'em and they had most votes in my region!

Eilikrinis 2010-04-09 11:26:36

Ha hahaa. Oh my.

Tenebricus 2010-04-09 11:49:46

I usually don't get involved in the political arguments and I never watch such promo movies as the one shown above, but I hate to see how hidebound, petty half-humans lie shamelessly about something, they're never even going to understand. Yes, I'm talking about you, ImperialNarwhal. You can swear all you want, but it won't make you smarter the least bit. The sad thing is, you'll never learn and instead will wallow in your ignorance for the rest of your life.

That said I'll just try to prove that colouring such things as ideology in black or white can never be true.

//If they say your going to be a farmer, but you have dreams of becomming an astronaught, too bad.

The Soviet Russia has ALWAYS (even in it's darkest hours) promoted and supported education and science. ALL education was free of charge, including colleges and universities. The only thing that was required - brains. Nobody could force a young man to take a certain profession, if the said young man wanted to do something else and could do it well. It might seem impossible, but it's actually true. Not only did the universities take in the soviet youth, but also many students from Eastern Europe, Africa, India, etc. For foreign students education was paid, but it was WAY cheaper (thanks to governmental grants), then in Western Europe and I dare say it wasn't worse even a little. In certain fields of science even better maybe.

//the majority of the Communist party are kids who havn't yet left their parents house, or just started in the work place
Another piece of rubbish. A great number of CPRF supporters are actually elderly people, who LIVED in the USSR and can compare their life then and during the atrocious 90-s. Even now, over almost 20 years after the USSR fell apart, they (the ones, who still remain) support their party, and I think it counts a lot.

//how can communism work OUTSIDE of TINY communities
China is a communist country. Now THAT'S a tiny community!

To sum up, I'd like to tell everyone, who reads this post, that I don't even try to acquit the communist ideology in your eyes. Every society has it's flaws. I only would advise you to pay little heed to stupid haters and mass-media. Media has it's goals and they only show you, what they want you to see. Haters act according to their hate. I am pretty biased myself, and due to that fact I wont discuss with you philosophy and ideology. The only things I've given are facts.

P.S. Yeah, almost forgot... I'm not a communist myself. That's to all of you, who will want to call me a "fuckin' commie". ;)

NGRfanatic 2010-04-09 12:28:51

Communism as an idea is good but it is impossible for it to be executed flawlessly. There will ALWAYS be someone on top of others (Communist Party members during the days of the USSR.)

RaptorFarmer 2010-04-09 12:50:21

Thanks for sharing. This commercial sums up how I feel. But I'm too far away from Russian politics to know if they're being sincere.

Cha0tic221 2010-04-09 13:06:17

Communists suck.

quantumnerd 2010-04-09 14:07:55

I don't like communism: period. Look at what happened to communist countries in the past! THEY FAILED. We should learn from our history, else we are doomed to repeat it.

You may ask, why shouldn't we support communism? Then everyone is equal, and everyone gets stuff. For a lot of reasons, this is flawed. Everyone is not equal even in communism, since you had the friends of the government being more equal than everyone else, and everyone being equal is a bad thing. Everyone is not equal: the least and most we should give people is equal opportunity. If everyone was equal, we would be artificially propping up those who do not try (they go against communistic production anyways) and deflating those who can be better and make a difference, because they're too good. Also, the everyone gets stuff part is also flawed. The good of the country is not a good enough motivator for strong production. In Soviet Russia, nobody ever met production quotas.

I could go on and write a university paper. I even lost my original point. But I made a new one and you could read it.

Tenebricus 2010-04-09 14:28:49

2Kenzu
//The only reason why the world didn't become socialist yet, is because of people's ignorance and faith in what the TV says.

Dude, that reply is hardcore! :) Still, I think you oversimplify the matter a little bit. There were many flaws in the USSR govenment. Effective, non-corrupt administration is a thing, which is rare to achieve and almost impossible to maintain. If you're up to create the better socialism of the XXI-th century, it's awesome and all, but defeating mass media won't automatically take you there. It's all about people. Ideas are powerful things, and I really think that capitalism is bound to fall one day, but until then... Politicians are never sincere, and Gennady Zyuganov is but a politician, after all.

Peacy 2010-04-09 15:15:51

keep the good work ^ ^

An italian communist

cardboardwalk 2010-04-09 15:16:13

Thats interesting but it doesn't change my values. I really think that in the end the government will have solved nothing or complicated anything. Just a group that can say "We were there when that happened." I tend to lean towards anarchy but I know that wouldn't work any better and probably worse.

chet913 2010-04-09 15:50:43

There is a reason its not as big anymore it doesnt work sure it sounds appeling and i wish things could be as simple as this party makes it sound but the fact of the matter is that 1.its been tested its failed 2.people will always be greedy and ambitious and 3.this is not what my uncles father grandfather and great grandfather fought to protect sure capitalism isnt the best but it sure as shit aint the worst and you can bet your life on that

Kohrmeh 2010-04-09 16:56:36

Well lets see i don`t really like communist party views if there a single party again make another soviet union.Besides I sorta like all socialist but not the communist goverment I mean if the party and not the people vote its all mess up also the communist never pointed ou or cared the environmental proplems.Yet if iam wrong you may correct me.