Unblocking Newgrounds in China

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Unblocking Newgrounds in China

Posted by Kenzu - September 20th, 2007

As many of you might know Newgrounds cannot be accessed from China.

Newgrounds has probably been blocked because it features flash with excessive violence, porn and other content deemed unsuitable for Chinese public.

My idea is that China could unblock Newgrounds while filtering unwanted flash. Afterall here are a lot of movies which promote good messages. Newgrounds isnt only about porn and violence.

MINISTRY OF INFORMATION INDUSTRY
This ministry deals with a variety of issues including filtering of words and blocking of internet sites with unsuitable content.

Here is their homepage:
http://www.mii.gov.cn/

Although I have found a page where you can report internet sites which should be blocked, I havent found a place where you could report what should be unblocked. However I have found an e-mail address where you can send your emails to. The person is in charge report-section. I think it is possible for him/her to unblock newgrounds if we can prove that here is valuable flash as well!

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TO: webmaster@mail.miibeian.gov.cn

SUBJECT: Please unblock newgrounds

Dear Madam or Sir,

(Here you write your request. Please be polite)

Yours faithfully,
(Here you write your name)

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PS: I think if more people request unblocking it will be more effective than if only I ask. I have sent my e-mail 3 days ago, but havent recieved a reply yet. Please send a letter as well!

Unblocking Newgrounds in China

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saltovergray 2007-09-20 17:04:42

cool. But i can't use my e-mail.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 17:04:42

Maybe you can use another email...
People usually have different email accounts for different issues.

iamnecromantic 2007-09-20 17:26:45

unfortunatley, it's pretty much violence and porn. i say we take it one step further and make a new section of newgrounds that doesn't have any of that. it's not just for china, little kids who are getting into flash gaming and would probobly enjoy user powered crap-filter. But even if they manage to find a group of games that aren't, well you know, the portal is still filled with... less than wholesome ads. please, even though my little sister can understand the vulgar crap, she will definitley avoid the site because it's just wrong. i don't want her to becaome another one of reality TV's mindless zombies.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 17:26:45 (Updated 2007-09-20 17:34:39)

I think we could manage flash not suitable for children by flagging it. It is also possible for China to filter what has to be blocked and what not. Tom could flag this kind of flash so that it doesnt appear in the search engines. (it could be accessed only through the "mature" portal)

I definitely agree that adolescents should be protected from certain content.

digitalk 2007-09-20 17:34:17

How did you make this post without accessing NG 0.o

ANYWAYS, i could wright a letter if it will help people get NG, so... Mabey ill wright it

Kenzu 2007-09-20 17:34:17

I made this post by posting outside China. Anyone outside China and other countries blocking this page can access it.

ErwinR0mmel 2007-09-20 17:57:25

Yeah, but the forums... Have you seen the forums? Communist bashing, anti-Chinese rhetoric and other thought provoking topics that the Chinese government would deem inappropriate. You can't have NG without the flame wars of the BBS! lol...

Kenzu 2007-09-20 17:57:25

They can block anything. If they can block www.newgrounds.com, why shouldn't they be able to block http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/for um/4 ???

afrodave 2007-09-20 18:16:30

That girl in the drawing has crooked eyes. It's probably the hair that makes them look like they're going in opposite directions.

Regardless, the picture looks retarded, no offense. (I'm also unsure as to how it's even relevant to the blog post)

Anyways, you have to understand the situation first. Newgrounds is just one site. If there's questionable content on the site, they can block it if they want to. Why should the Chinese Government waste their time and money trying to filter out all of the "questionable" material on Newgrounds when they can just block it altogether? Why should the Chinese Gov't even care about Newgrounds, much less any other site that hosts flash animations?

Besides, porn and violence are featured all day everyday on NG. There isn't a single minute that goes by in which neither is featured.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 18:16:30

"Chinese Government" isnt a faceless machine. There are people everywhere. Every organisation consists out of people.

All they have to do is remove newgrounds from the blocklist and type in words to filter newgrounds. This whole issue can be solved within 10 minutes by the administrator. And why they should do it? Because it's their job.

Why shouldn't they do it? If they unblock Newgrounds, they may use it too!

afrodave 2007-09-20 18:43:16

Oh my god. Did you read anything I said? If not, let me show you the parts I suspect you didn't read.

You - All they have to do is remove newgrounds from the blocklist and type in words to filter newgrounds. This whole issue can be solved within 10 minutes by the administrator. And why they should do it? Because it's their job.

Me - porn and violence are featured all day everyday on NG. There isn't a single minute that goes by in which neither is featured.

To better explain this, there is porn and violence all over the site. Newgrounds IS violence. The logo is a tank, after all.

YOU SAY - Why shouldn't they do it? If they unblock Newgrounds, they may use it too!

I SAID - Why should the Chinese Gov't even care about Newgrounds, much less any other site that hosts flash animations?

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I just get a little annoyed when I suspect that people are only reading half of what I say.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 18:43:16

I answered all your question, Now I will answer them again, using other words. Maybe you will understand:

-NO MATTER WHAT YOU FEATURE, IT CAN BE FILTERED!
-SOMEONE SHOOTING SOMEONE ELSE ISNT EXCESSIVE VIOLOENCE. IF YOU SEE BLOOD SHOOTING TO ALL SIDES, THAT IS EXCESSIVE VIOLENCE.
-THEY WOULD CARE ABOUT NEWGROUNDS JUST LIKE THEY CARE ABOUT OTHER SITES. THEY HAVE A JOB AND IF THEY DID NOTHING, THEY WOULD BE BORED.

I answered all. Maybe you didn't read my whole answer.

Sonucais 2007-09-20 19:19:51

To afrodave- There are of all around Newgrounds, not only violence or porn like you say. One thing those people could do is make a filter to the sites from NG that have those pics

<a href="http://img.ngfiles.com/ricons/rate_m.gif">http://img.ngfiles.com/ricons/rate_m.
gif</a>
<a href="http://img.ngfiles.com/ricons/rate_a.gif">http://img.ngfiles.com/ricons/rate_a.
gif</a>

Kenzu 2007-09-20 19:19:51

Yes, that's a good idea indeed!

afrodave 2007-09-20 19:41:38

Ah, I didn't think of that one. Although I still doubt sending the CHINESE government a whole mess of emails and letters in ENGLISH will change much anyway.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 19:41:38

Many Chinese speak English. Especially those, employed in the government.

robattle 2007-09-20 19:43:39

If you use a proxy you can go past the block, but you can't log in or vote.

That's the best I can do.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 19:43:39

That's when you know that Newgrounds exists, but what about new users? There wont be any from China until the block is removed.

UNLIMITED-008 2007-09-20 19:57:03

I second Sonucais' suggestion. I was thinking of the same thing but I would've drawn it way out. Also afrodave is insane.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 19:57:03

I am sure they have an effective system on filtering. They should be able to do that without much effort.

afrodave 2007-09-20 20:41:02

Copypasta for the win, Sean. You are fucking awesome.

Pandora-Productions 2007-09-20 22:29:18

yeah I'm actually in china atm and i have to use a proxy server to access this wonderful website xD

BigFuzzyKitten 2007-09-20 22:34:08

China and similar countries only block sites because they are insecure with themselves.

The-Truth-Seeker 2007-09-20 23:31:51

Actually, half the stuff on Newgrounds is considered illegal in China. Porn, Excessive, violence, basically ANYTHING that could possibly corrupt anything is illegal in China. Also, the amount of work that is required to only unblock certain content would be too much work for a Country like China.

However, when i was in China, newgrounds was accessible. How did you find out it was blocked?

Kenzu 2007-09-20 23:31:51

The "illegal" stuff is maybe 20%. Most of flash are music videos, comedies, flash involving life and love...

I found out about this when Chinese friends couldnt access the links I gave them to show my flash.

FrozenFire 2007-09-20 23:34:56

Chinese are going to fucking own our animations by like 400 % :(

But nonetheless it would make the site 400% more Awesome.

Unless It is all anime poop.

Kenzu 2007-09-20 23:34:56

I am sure that unblocking Newgrounds in China would improve the average of flash here, because many new talented artists would submit it!

tony4moroney 2007-09-21 12:21:54

i swear you have an unhealthy obsession with china.

Kenzu 2007-09-21 12:21:54

Chinese culture became a part of me. But I don't think you should call it obsessive.

Why do you think I'm obsessed with China? Just because I made a flash about the Chinese new year, and just because I want NG to be unblocked in China?

NewFounder 2007-11-14 21:31:55

I doubt they'd do it it not to important to them just one site some of the stuff here are considered shameful and also if you were to block web pages by the icon what if people started posting it as suitable for all ? or a rating that wasn't accurate.

domdom2323 2008-12-05 15:01:51

I can see what your problem is and will do all I can to help. At the Sorbonne, we're expected to get involved with issues such as censorship and I feel that it is time for the Chinese government to receive a wake-up call regarding its censorship. It cannot hide what happened in 1989 forever.

God be with you
Dom

Buoy 2009-04-01 10:17:30

WE DID IT

ultra-jesper2 2009-04-01 13:07:09

Thanks to this is a lot of the content blocked and everything gets logged before we even may summit our thoughts, i don't get the idea of unblocking

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