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Unblocking Newgrounds in China

Posted by Kenzu Sep. 20, 2007 @ 4:49 PM EDT

As many of you might know Newgrounds cannot be accessed from China.

Newgrounds has probably been blocked because it features flash with excessive violence, porn and other content deemed unsuitable for Chinese public.

My idea is that China could unblock Newgrounds while filtering unwanted flash. Afterall here are a lot of movies which promote good messages. Newgrounds isnt only about porn and violence.

MINISTRY OF INFORMATION INDUSTRY
This ministry deals with a variety of issues including filtering of words and blocking of internet sites with unsuitable content.

Here is their homepage:
http://www.mii.gov.cn/

Although I have found a page where you can report internet sites which should be blocked, I havent found a place where you could report what should be unblocked. However I have found an e-mail address where you can send your emails to. The person is in charge report-section. I think it is possible for him/her to unblock newgrounds if we can prove that here is valuable flash as well!

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TO: webmaster@mail.miibeian.gov.cn

SUBJECT: Please unblock newgrounds

Dear Madam or Sir,

(Here you write your request. Please be polite)

Yours faithfully,
(Here you write your name)

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PS: I think if more people request unblocking it will be more effective than if only I ask. I have sent my e-mail 3 days ago, but havent recieved a reply yet. Please send a letter as well!

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28 Comments

Sep. 20, 2007 | 5:04 PM SaltshakerClock says:

cool. But i can't use my e-mail.

Sep. 20, 2007 | 5:35 PM Kenzu responds:

Maybe you can use another email...
People usually have different email accounts for different issues.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 5:26 PM iamnecromantic says:

unfortunatley, it's pretty much violence and porn. i say we take it one step further and make a new section of newgrounds that doesn't have any of that. it's not just for china, little kids who are getting into flash gaming and would probobly enjoy user powered crap-filter. But even if they manage to find a group of games that aren't, well you know, the portal is still filled with... less than wholesome ads. please, even though my little sister can understand the vulgar crap, she will definitley avoid the site because it's just wrong. i don't want her to becaome another one of reality TV's mindless zombies.

Sep. 20, 2007 | 5:34 PM Kenzu responds:

I think we could manage flash not suitable for children by flagging it. It is also possible for China to filter what has to be blocked and what not. Tom could flag this kind of flash so that it doesnt appear in the search engines. (it could be accessed only through the "mature" portal)

I definitely agree that adolescents should be protected from certain content.

Updated: Sep. 20, 2007, 5:36 PM

Sep. 20, 2007 | 5:34 PM digitalk says:

How did you make this post without accessing NG 0.o

ANYWAYS, i could wright a letter if it will help people get NG, so... Mabey ill wright it

Sep. 20, 2007 | 6:01 PM Kenzu responds:

I made this post by posting outside China. Anyone outside China and other countries blocking this page can access it.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 5:57 PM ErwinR0mmel says:

Yeah, but the forums... Have you seen the forums? Communist bashing, anti-Chinese rhetoric and other thought provoking topics that the Chinese government would deem inappropriate. You can't have NG without the flame wars of the BBS! lol...

Sep. 20, 2007 | 6:00 PM Kenzu responds:

They can block anything. If they can block www.newgrounds.com, why shouldn't they be able to block http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/for um/4 ???


Sep. 20, 2007 | 6:16 PM afrodave says:

That girl in the drawing has crooked eyes. It's probably the hair that makes them look like they're going in opposite directions.

Regardless, the picture looks retarded, no offense. (I'm also unsure as to how it's even relevant to the blog post)

Anyways, you have to understand the situation first. Newgrounds is just one site. If there's questionable content on the site, they can block it if they want to. Why should the Chinese Government waste their time and money trying to filter out all of the "questionable" material on Newgrounds when they can just block it altogether? Why should the Chinese Gov't even care about Newgrounds, much less any other site that hosts flash animations?

Besides, porn and violence are featured all day everyday on NG. There isn't a single minute that goes by in which neither is featured.

Sep. 20, 2007 | 6:35 PM Kenzu responds:

"Chinese Government" isnt a faceless machine. There are people everywhere. Every organisation consists out of people.

All they have to do is remove newgrounds from the blocklist and type in words to filter newgrounds. This whole issue can be solved within 10 minutes by the administrator. And why they should do it? Because it's their job.

Why shouldn't they do it? If they unblock Newgrounds, they may use it too!


Sep. 20, 2007 | 6:43 PM afrodave says:

Oh my god. Did you read anything I said? If not, let me show you the parts I suspect you didn't read.

You - All they have to do is remove newgrounds from the blocklist and type in words to filter newgrounds. This whole issue can be solved within 10 minutes by the administrator. And why they should do it? Because it's their job.

Me - porn and violence are featured all day everyday on NG. There isn't a single minute that goes by in which neither is featured.

To better explain this, there is porn and violence all over the site. Newgrounds IS violence. The logo is a tank, after all.

YOU SAY - Why shouldn't they do it? If they unblock Newgrounds, they may use it too!

I SAID - Why should the Chinese Gov't even care about Newgrounds, much less any other site that hosts flash animations?

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I just get a little annoyed when I suspect that people are only reading half of what I say.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:43 AM Kenzu responds:

I answered all your question, Now I will answer them again, using other words. Maybe you will understand:

-NO MATTER WHAT YOU FEATURE, IT CAN BE FILTERED!
-SOMEONE SHOOTING SOMEONE ELSE ISNT EXCESSIVE VIOLOENCE. IF YOU SEE BLOOD SHOOTING TO ALL SIDES, THAT IS EXCESSIVE VIOLENCE.
-THEY WOULD CARE ABOUT NEWGROUNDS JUST LIKE THEY CARE ABOUT OTHER SITES. THEY HAVE A JOB AND IF THEY DID NOTHING, THEY WOULD BE BORED.

I answered all. Maybe you didn't read my whole answer.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 7:19 PM Sonucais says:

To afrodave- There are of all around Newgrounds, not only violence or porn like you say. One thing those people could do is make a filter to the sites from NG that have those pics

http://img.ngfiles.com/ricons/rate_m.
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http://img.ngfiles.com/ricons/rate_a.
gif

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:45 AM Kenzu responds:

Yes, that's a good idea indeed!


Sep. 20, 2007 | 7:41 PM afrodave says:

Ah, I didn't think of that one. Although I still doubt sending the CHINESE government a whole mess of emails and letters in ENGLISH will change much anyway.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:46 AM Kenzu responds:

Many Chinese speak English. Especially those, employed in the government.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 7:43 PM robattle says:

If you use a proxy you can go past the block, but you can't log in or vote.

That's the best I can do.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:50 AM Kenzu responds:

That's when you know that Newgrounds exists, but what about new users? There wont be any from China until the block is removed.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 7:57 PM UNLIMITED-008 says:

I second Sonucais' suggestion. I was thinking of the same thing but I would've drawn it way out. Also afrodave is insane.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:54 AM Kenzu responds:

I am sure they have an effective system on filtering. They should be able to do that without much effort.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 8:38 PM SeanJoystick says:

A friend of mine, when he was thirteen years old he heard about "pegging." This is when a guy gets banged up the butt with a dildo. Stimulate the prostate gland hard enough, and the rumor is you can have explosive hands-free orgasms. At that age, this friend's a little sex maniac. He's always jonesing for a better way to get his rocks off. He goes out to buy a carrot and some petroleum jelly. To conduct a little private research. Then he pictures how it's going to look at the supermarket checkstand, the lonely carrot and petroleum jelly rolling down the conveyer belt toward the grocery store cashier. All the shoppers waiting in line, watching. Everyone seeing the big evening he has planned.

So, my friend, he buys milk and eggs and sugar and a carrot, all the ingredients for a carrot cake. And Vaseline.

Like he's going home to stick a carrot cake up his butt.

At home, he whittles the carrot into a blunt tool. He slathers it with grease and grinds his ass down on it. Then, nothing. No orgasm. Nothing happens except it hurts.

Then, this kid, his mom yells it's suppertime. She says to come down, right now.

He works the carrot out and stashes the slippery, filthy thing in the dirty clothes under his bed.

After dinner, he goes to find the carrot and it's gone. All his dirty clothes, while he ate dinner, his mom grabbed them all to do laundry. No way could she not find the carrot, carefully shaped with a paring knife from her kitchen, still shiny with lube and stinky.

This friend of mine, he waits months under a black cloud, waiting for his folks to confront him. And they never do. Ever. Even now he's grown up, that invisible carrot hangs over every Christmas dinner, every birthday party. Every Easter egg hunt with his kids, his parents' grandkids, that ghost carrot is hovering over all of them.

That something too awful to name.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:55 AM Kenzu responds:

That's one of the resons why children have to be protected from certain content.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 8:41 PM afrodave says:

Copypasta for the win, Sean. You are fucking awesome.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 10:01 PM MrCrawford says:

Unfortunately, I think this goes against all the tenets Newgrounds stands for. NG is a place of free speech, and its extreme shock value is what makes it what it is. True, while many flash authors such as yourself contribute in manners unlike the norm, the majority of flash here, at least the ones with the most publicity, often contain huge amounts of controversial material (the reason the Chinese government blocked it in the first place). But I digress...

The point is that Newgrounds is based around this, and has, well, lets call them authority issues. Although the Chinese government may allow limited access to Newgrounds, they're definitely going to need Tom's help, which (I hope) will be met with a resounding no. Albeit I admire socialist governments, I cannot say that I favor the removal of choice and the moral absolutism the Chinese government, and many other non-socialist governments for that matter, impose upon the citizenry. The Internet is a human achievement and should be outside of the control of any executive power, no matter what said powers believe pertaining to free speech.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 4:32 PM Kenzu responds:

Although we might agree that some supression might be too excessive, I still support the idea that some things remain blocked from the public like child pornography or ideas in support of racism and nazi ideology.

I hope this matter will be solved soon. I am still awaiting their response.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 10:29 PM Pandora-Productions says:

yeah I'm actually in china atm and i have to use a proxy server to access this wonderful website xD


Sep. 20, 2007 | 10:34 PM BFK says:

China and similar countries only block sites because they are insecure with themselves.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 11:31 PM The-Truth-Seeker says:

Actually, half the stuff on Newgrounds is considered illegal in China. Porn, Excessive, violence, basically ANYTHING that could possibly corrupt anything is illegal in China. Also, the amount of work that is required to only unblock certain content would be too much work for a Country like China.

However, when i was in China, newgrounds was accessible. How did you find out it was blocked?

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:58 AM Kenzu responds:

The "illegal" stuff is maybe 20%. Most of flash are music videos, comedies, flash involving life and love...

I found out about this when Chinese friends couldnt access the links I gave them to show my flash.


Sep. 20, 2007 | 11:34 PM FrozenFire says:

Chinese are going to fucking own our animations by like 400 % :(

But nonetheless it would make the site 400% more Awesome.

Unless It is all anime poop.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 6:56 AM Kenzu responds:

I am sure that unblocking Newgrounds in China would improve the average of flash here, because many new talented artists would submit it!


Sep. 21, 2007 | 12:21 PM tony4moroney says:

i swear you have an unhealthy obsession with china.

Sep. 21, 2007 | 4:35 PM Kenzu responds:

Chinese culture became a part of me. But I don't think you should call it obsessive.

Why do you think I'm obsessed with China? Just because I made a flash about the Chinese new year, and just because I want NG to be unblocked in China?


Oct. 15, 2007 | 4:01 AM cellardoor6 says:

That's complete bullshit.

If they were really blocking it for excessive violence or porn, then they'd block Chinese websites that contain those things.

They are really blocking NG because it's western, and Chinese kids that view it might be corrupted (i.e. have their eyes opened) about certain things about the world the Chinese government doesn't want their people to know about.

Oct. 16, 2007 | 12:04 PM Kenzu responds:

That's a very narrowminded view. Youtube for example isn't blocked.

I am sure pornsites are all blocked in China, especially Chinese pornsites.

I dont know about any Chinese pornsites though. Do such sites even exist?


Nov. 14, 2007 | 9:31 PM NewFounder says:

I doubt they'd do it it not to important to them just one site some of the stuff here are considered shameful and also if you were to block web pages by the icon what if people started posting it as suitable for all ? or a rating that wasn't accurate.


May. 13, 2008 | 7:41 PM TyPah says:

Umm... I'm f*cking eleven. Sorry for the profanity but iamnecromantic made me mad with his comment about 'little kids who are gettinhg into flash games.' >:C


May. 13, 2008 | 7:44 PM TyPah says:

Oh, yeah, I partly agree with cellardoor6 except that he made Chinese people sound racist with that Western part.


May. 13, 2008 | 7:45 PM TyPah says:

Do they block American adult websites there?


Dec. 5, 2008 | 3:01 PM domdom2323 says:

I can see what your problem is and will do all I can to help. At the Sorbonne, we're expected to get involved with issues such as censorship and I feel that it is time for the Chinese government to receive a wake-up call regarding its censorship. It cannot hide what happened in 1989 forever.

God be with you
Dom


Apr. 1, 2009 | 10:17 AM SBB says:

WE DID IT


Apr. 1, 2009 | 1:07 PM ultra-jesper2 says:

Thanks to this is a lot of the content blocked and everything gets logged before we even may summit our thoughts, i don't get the idea of unblocking


Apr. 1, 2009 | 5:15 PM Xenas says:

What About all the Madness Fla shes? and ZONE's too? and why there is all of this "bicycle, fortune cookie and china?"
i cant understand a word of new grounds anymore(well, maybe not a word, but some sentences stopped making sense. China can not me accessed in China?)
If there is a translation board for that stuff...
and... what about everyone else? we will all be excessively filtered just because of a country named china???


Apr. 2, 2009 | 10:20 AM Hyaena says:

I realize I'm sort of traveling back in time to reply to this, and nearly a couple of years back at that, but still:

What you proposed a year and a half ago in one response to a comment, Tom actively flagging things to not be displayed, would go against what Newgrounds stands for. Namely, the open and free sharing of ideas and art.

Other companies, like Google, are willing to do so because their primary purpose is to make money. Newgrounds' primary purpose, however, is not a matter of money. It is a matter of free communication of ideas, which is something the CPC does not want. And in all honesty, if Tom 'were' to follow through on your suggestion and start filtering the majority of what comes in into the "mature" section(which is currently reserved pretty specifically for hard-core porn), I'd stop using the site.

As far as asking the Chinese government to unblock the site and filter only certain animations? They either can't or won't. Why? Man-power. They would have to have someone sitting there twenty-four hours a day in order to view each and every animation in order to make sure only animations they deemed 'appropriate' made it through.

That's one person, twenty-four hours a day, dedicated 'solely to watching the Newgrounds Flash portal'. That's unrealistic.

As for your stating that certain 'ideas' should be blocked? No, they shouldn't. Just because you disagree with something does not mean it should be blocked. People believing one race or another is superior to another? It's their right to believe that, and their right to state it out loud.

A wise man by name of François Marie Arouet, otherwise known as Voltaire, once said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

The freedom to say whatever you like, to openly share your ideas, regardless of how deplorable others may find them to be, is one of the cornerstones of any genuinely free nation. Without that freedom, all others are useless. They are, in fact, worse than useless because they lure people into a false sense of security. After all, if the most basic human liberty is removed who's to say what will be taken away next?

Now, as far as child pornography? Literal, physical pornography of living children 'should' be, and in most nations 'is', outlawed. But there's a difference between that and racism/Nazi propoganda. What difference, you may ask?

Racism and Nazi propoganda are ideas. Thoughts. They are not physical entities. Child pornography, on the other hand, involves bringing direct physical and mental harm to a living, breathing child. It is not an idea, it is a physical action taken against a child who is likely too young to understand what's happening.

If you can't see the difference between a physical act and a thought, then may whatever God you happen to believe in have mercy on your soul.

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